The Thunder (Heloha) is a midrange rated 5/4/-1/1. A turn rating of -1 with a fade rating of 1 suggests a fairly straight flight with some right drift at speed for a right-hand backhand and a gentle finish. Its ratings suggest it is less suited to players seeking strong turnover resistance or a pronounced fade. Native Discs prints both names on the stamp alongside a thunderbird with spread wings, and the same rating in its number boxes. The PDGA approved it as the EcoReboot Thunder (Heloha) on 6 January 2025 (25-2) and as the EcoChar Thunder (Heloha) on 31 March 2025 (25-50). Native Discs says its EcoReboot plastic is post-consumer recycled and comes in nine colours, six of which it describes as sacred in Choctaw culture, and calls EcoChar a biochar blend it bills as carbon-negative, neither of which TryDiscs records yet. TryDiscs does not yet record a plastic row for it as of September 2026.
The Thunder (Heloha) is a midrange rated 5/4/-1/1. A turn rating of -1 with a fade rating of 1 suggests a fairly straight flight with some right drift at speed for a right-hand backhand and a gentle finish. Its ratings suggest it is less suited to players seeking strong turnover resistance or a pronounced fade.
Native Discs prints both names on the stamp alongside a thunderbird with spread wings, and the same rating in its number boxes. The PDGA approved it as the EcoReboot Thunder (Heloha) on 6 January 2025 (25-2) and as the EcoChar Thunder (Heloha) on 31 March 2025 (25-50). Native Discs says its EcoReboot plastic is post-consumer recycled and comes in nine colours, six of which it describes as sacred in Choctaw culture, and calls EcoChar a biochar blend it bills as carbon-negative, neither of which TryDiscs records yet.
TryDiscs does not yet record a plastic row for it as of September 2026.
Flight
Source: Native Discs
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LeftRight
Arm speed
NoviceIntermediatePro
SpeedHow hard the disc must be thrown to fly as designed. Putters are 1 to 3, the fastest drivers 14 and up.
5
GlideHow long the disc stays in the air. More glide means more distance from the same throw.
4
TurnHow much it drifts right early in flight (right-handed backhand). More negative, more drift.
-1
FadeHow hard it hooks left as it slows down (right-handed backhand). Higher, stronger hook.
1
StabilityTurn plus fade. Negative drifts right and is easier for beginners. Positive finishes left.Turn + Fade
0
Dimensions
Source: PDGA
DiameterHow wide the disc is, edge to edge. Almost every disc is 21 to 22 cm.
21.6 cm
HeightHow tall the disc is lying flat. Putters are usually the tallest.
1.7 cm
Rim DepthHow deep the rim is underneath, where your fingers grip. Putters have the deepest rims.
1.2 cm
Rim ThicknessHow wide the rim is. Wider rims make faster discs that need a stronger throw.
1.3 cm
Rim Inside DiameterThe width of the flat middle, inside the rim. Bigger usually means a slower, easier disc.
19 cm
Rim Depth/Diameter RatioRim depth as a share of the disc's width. Higher means a deeper rim for its size.
5.6%
Rim ConfigurationA PDGA score for the shape of the edge. Low is sharp, like a driver. High is rounded, like a putter.
41.5
BeadA small ridge under the edge of the rim, mostly on putters. It changes how the disc feels in hand.
